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Adriv



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why it has to be different in different countries?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so that the studio can earn more!!!......LOL.....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:07 am    Post subject: Theatrical Release Reply with quote

Hey people!


From what I know, the theatrical release - which I got at Ebay, and would recommend everyone to do so before the release date, contains the entire film in 2 CD's. There is also a relatively expensive, and rare 4 CD collection, and if you can find that...get it.
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cassanders mum



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: BiSexual Reply with quote

Leonnatus wrote:
Alexander was ***. If Oliver Stone falls back on this one in the face of pure ignorance then, for me, it will be a crime.

Why give a label to Alexander? He was the same as many men of his time who spent a long time on campaigns and cuddled up to whoever was closest but if you go back to the scene in the movie where Aristotle is teaching the young Alexander and listen to the question posed by young Cassander and to the answer it explains the interaction between men/women of the time quite clearly
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cassander's mum ( as Mel Gibson might say we all have our crosses to bear Cool ) The reason I always refer to Alexander as bisexual is because that is what the historical records state by depicting him as a lover of men and women.I also think that bisexuality must have been a strong feature of Ancient Greek life because the Gods whom they worshipped were more or less equally divided male and female. The best example of how this expressed itself, for me, is in that of Athena who was the Goddess/God of War and Knowledge.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original Cut:
Side #1 -- Alexander, Disc 1
1. Falling Ring [2:58]
2. Empire of the Mind [4:03]
3. Mother's Little Achilles [3:49]
4. Avenger From My Womb [1:34]
5. Aristotle Teaches [4:58]
6. Taming Bucephalas [4:55]
7. Kings are Made [3:55]
8. Love Vs. Duty [4:25]
9. Banished [5:00]
10. Map of Conquest [1:54]
11. Battle Plan [4:33]
12. Moonlit Vow [2:51]
13. Conquer Your Fear [5:58]
14. Gaugamela: Battle Begins [6:06]
15. Darius Retreats [4:57]
16. Entering Babylon [4:55]
17. Royal Request [5:17]
18. Mother's Letters [2:46]
19. Everything I Care for [4:09]
20. Fate of Darius [2:35]
Side #2 -- Alexander, Disc 2
21. Asian Allurements [5:41]
22. Wedding Vows [2:21]
23. Different Ways to Love [8:07]
24. Conspirators [3:54]
25. Across the Hindu Kush [4:10]
26. Mired in India [6:12]
27. Clash With Cleitus [6:33]
28. Go on Your Way Father [3:41]
29. Assassination [3:14]
30. The World is Yours [:25]
31. Rebellion in the Ranks [4:24]
32. Elephant Attack [7:32]
33. Brought Down [5:06]
34. Home to Babylon [5:29]
35. Hephaistion's Farewell [3:35]
36. Roxane's Revelation [4:14]
37. One Last Toast [1:19]
38. Taking Flight [1:41]
39. Greatest of Them All [2:37]
40. End Credits [5:15]

Director's Cut:
Side #1 -- Alexander, Disc 1
1. Falling Ring [3:17]
2. Empire of the Mind [2:32]
3. My Little Achilles [3:28]
4. Never Yours [1:32]
5. Our Greek Dream [5:29]
6. Bucephalas [4:55]
7. Kings are Made [4:19]
8. On Alexander's Terms [3:57]
9. Conquer Your Fear [5:46]
10. Battle of Gaugamela [6:03]
11. Driving Darius Back [4:57]
12. Joining the Myth Wall [3:23]
13. Entering Babylon [3:52]
14. Royal Request [3:50]
15. Mother's Letters [2:12]
16. With You Always [3:38]
17. Fate of Darius [2:23]
18. Personal Desires [5:17]
19. Wedding Vows [1:40]
20. Different Ways to Love [6:27]
21. Love Vs. Duty [6:12]
22. Conspirators [:05]
23. Banished [4:08]
24. Across the Hindu Kush [5:00]
25. Mired in India [4:10]
26. Clash With Cleitus [5:29]
27. Go on Your Way, Father [5:02]
28. Assassination [3:40]
29. Rebellion in the Ranks [3:14]
30. Elephant Attack [6:58]
31. Brought Down [5:33]
32. The World is Yours [5:54]
33. Home to Babylon [5:04]
34. Hephaistion's Farewell [3:56]
35. Roxane's Revelation [4:03]
36. One Last Toast [1:20]
37. Taking Flight [1:42]
38. Greatest of Them All [4:52]
39. End Credits [2:59]
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cassanders mum



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: DVD's Reply with quote

Is Scene 5 in both cuts the same scene with different title or has Stone cut the Aristotle classroom scene altogether?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: DVD's Reply with quote

cassanders mum wrote:
Is Scene 5 in both cuts the same scene with different title or has Stone cut the Aristotle classroom scene altogether?


The scene with Aristotle remains in the director's cut, but it has been re-edited with some additional dialogue; the exchange about Achilles and Patroklos now takes place at the beginning, rather than at the end of the scene. Cassander still gets to say his lines to Aristotle. Smile

The emphasis at the close of the scene is now on Alexander's ambition, his belief in the myths and dreams of glory, and Aristotle tells him;

"I can only warn you, not teach you. Beware of what you dream for. The gods have a way of punishing such pride."
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cassanders mum



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Cassander Reply with quote

Thanks a mil. DVD not out here in Ireland until during this coming week nice birthday gift for Morgan (young Cassander) who will be 16 on Tuesday Aug 2nd.
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Susa



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Cassander Reply with quote

cassanders mum wrote:
Thanks a mil. DVD not out here in Ireland until during this coming week nice birthday gift for Morgan (young Cassander) who will be 16 on Tuesday Aug 2nd.


You're welcome. Very best wishes to Morgan on his birthday and for his future success. Smile
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