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Pipsqueak · Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 141 Location: West Midlands, UK

Hi guys - glad to see Brokeback is still up for discussion - and yes, Apelles - anything done by Oliver Stone does seem ripe for the ripping by Hollywood - anyone else seems to be able to get away with it - perhaps it's because Brokeback isn't billed as a blockbuster - and therefore doesn't need to generate so much of the old green stuff.
Anyway - I went to see Brokeback today - full of anticipation at seeing the gorgeous Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger in each others arms - unfortunately - I've come away with mixed feelings about the film and would love to hear about what other people think of it. Is it just me or did it seem to be lacking all the passion Amercia has said it has? For some reason, I just couldn't warm to Ennis (Heath's character), he just didn't seem to posses the emotion I was expecting from him. I tried my best to feel something for the both of them, but it just wasn't there. Also, it seems the only way Hollywood believes two men to kiss is by looking as if there trying to head-butt one another - I didn't see any passionate meeting of the lips or longing of the eyes (except Jake toward the end) and their first initmate encounter could only be discribed as akin to rape rather than any passionate out pouring of need (although this could be because Ennis was unsure of what he was doing). It just seemed to me that this was a film about two homosexual men made for a hetersexual audience. There was more passion and longing portrayed between Colin Farrell and Jared Leto atop the balcony in Alexander than there was in the whole of this film. Sad

Still, it could be because I had such high expectations of the film, so maybe another look with greater perspective is warranted. And there are great scenes of sweeping vistas to enjoy - and 2 beautiful men to look at - so it wasn't a total loss. Smile

As soon as anyone else sees it please let me know what you think....

Adriv · Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1144 Location: Maryland, USA

Pips!!! welcome back!! where have you been?

Pipsqueak · Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 141 Location: West Midlands, UK

Hi Adriv - thanks for the welcome - yes, I've been naughty haven't I? Embarassed

Apologies - but I'm back and still loving Mr Farrell and looking forward to The New World - saw a killer trailer for it when I went to see Brokeback - I must say, although Colin was great in Alexander - I do love the black hair and beard - suits him MUCH better... Smile

Have you seen Brokeback yet? If so, let us know whatya thought....

Adriv · Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1144 Location: Maryland, USA

isela · Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 385 Location: mexico

I watched some parts of it in a special about the incoming movies. I think is going to be an interesting movie. Im waiting anxiously to watched the Malvoro man in a new scheme Laughing

alessandros · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject:

i have to wait untill 12 feb for the local theaters to start screening

Adriv · Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1144 Location: Maryland, USA

Now more than ever I want to see the movie.

4 Golden Globes! wow! Shocked

This is what I don't understand.... why people gave so much s*it to Alexander the movie?. Rolling Eyes

joanna · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject:

LEONIDAS · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: Brokeass MT

Leonidas here with his once in while posts that I write. But I had to say something about the recent all american gay cowboy movie that everyone here in the good old right wing United States is raving about. One thing I wouldnt take my dog to this picture!!! All this is Hollywood hype and Iknow becasue I live less than two hours from hollywood I am so sick of hearing about this movie!!!! Whats the difference alexander dealt with gay issues and I would hardly say that american cowboys are heroic not compared to alexander no way jose!!! America cannot not relate to alexander like it does in Europe thats why the movie flopped over here americans dont care about ancient history just their own from 1776 and onward !!! It s a fact yes there are a few of us in here adriv and cindoo who are only a few who still love this movie from america but most of you are from europe and this is part of your history most of all . But for me it will always be part of me Either it be Greek or Roman history I am with it until the end!!!!thank you!!

Adriv · Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1144 Location: Maryland, USA

Bravo! *Applause*

Leonidas - good to see you back! Smile

apelles · Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 1152

I went to see Brokeback yesterday,with an open mind,after,as Leonidas said,all the hype.Possibly,I could have been influenced by the fact that I,d read the story by Annie Proux but I loved it.I thought it was done with great sensitivity and carried from the original story that inter-relationship between the characters and the landscape which worked beautifully.Proux has this knack of finding characters struggling with their identities and placing them in a spectacular natural setting where they can find themselves.She did it with Quoyle in The Shipping News and again here with Ennis and Jack.It,s only when they come out of the isolation of Brokeback Mountain and into contact with the real world that the relationship becomes impossible.
Pipsqueak wrote.

apelles · Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 1152

Apologies to Ms.Proulx.I managed to spell her name wrong! Embarassed

Adriv · Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1144 Location: Maryland, USA

I finally saw it! it is a great movie but sad... Sad

The end made me tear, I thought it was well done. I wish it wins lots of awards, it deserves it. Smile

apelles · Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 1152

Well,it,s just possible I,m going nuts but this film,s haunted me ever since I saw it.So I went again and on second viewing it,s even better!Many of my friends have pre-judged it and won,t go for pretty ridiculous reasons.Reading user reviews on the film sites I,ve realised that thousands of people have been as powerfully moved as I,ve been.I hope it wins everything,it deserves to.

joanna · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:07 am Post subject:

I came back home an hour ago. It's around 3.00. Yes, I know it's late but I wanted to tell you that I was at the cinema. I saw 'Brokeback Mountain'....twice! That's why I returned home so late.
What I think about it, I'll tell you tomorrow........