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lock · Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 65

WRITING WAS NOT use in 5000 b.c.,and there is now proof the picture writing started first in the savanna regions and nubia very early as well and then it went to egypt in africa.

eryan · Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 13

vulgaren · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject:

Hi Proud Persian - There will be a huge exibition of Persian Empire in London in 2005. The curator of the British Museum had an interview in the Standard and he also said that the Persian Kingdom has been neglected.

Lala · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:03 pm Post subject:

"Neglected"? ...

vulgaren · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:11 pm Post subject:

yes its influence in the history of the modern world as the first world empire.

Lala · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject:

1) I think it was about time someone cared to show the Persian culture/history.
2) I don't think it was the first world empire. Don't ignore the Chineese.

vulgaren · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject:

Well - the curator of British Museum said it was the first world empire, not me. I will see if I can find the link somewhere...

eryan · Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 13

Kevin · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject:

Iranian_88 · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:10 am Post subject:

Hey Kevin, I'm sorry I know we should keep this off the board but I just needed to add something.

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I’m sorry to say that, but nobody gone cares about Persian history/culture. And nobody should either, except for us Persian. Is not easy for the rest of the world to react to lies about Persian history and culture, when we today have a regime that only goal is to destroy before build and to dispel all Persian history before 600 AD.

Maybe noone but us cares about our own culture and long gone empire but I think the rest of the world should care b'cuz they can learn from it the way we did. Why shouldn't they? It was one of the greatest empires!

Besides, don't bring up anything about the new regime b'cuz its goal is not to distory but to give us our own name and it did, we aren't pets like the Arabs and you should be glad about that.

Don't say anything about Iran today b'cuz it's way too powerful, much more than you think.

Let's all stay in History, I think it's for the best...

I think it is a nice thing that the world knows the Persian history has been neglected b'cuz yes it has. We've seen movies about almost all kings and great people of before but Persia is not in them... It is not sympathy, it is the truth...

It should be in the picture more often.

Epirotan · Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 4

Hi,
You know that History is written by the winners. This is true. The historians tell what Alexandros did in his short life, abd they consider his deeds amazing. I think this is a fact. Only few men in History changed the world so much in a so little time. Alexandros had been one of these men. We cannot compare him with Cyrus. The late was the founder of the Persian Empire. But what had been the difference with the other previous Empires? The Persians followed the Asian despotic rule of the Assyrians and Babylonians. Can we say the same about Alexandros? I'm not sure. If he could live more, maybe he would do the same. There are some indications about it. Some historians, even Greek ones, consider Alexandros is the destroyer of the Athenean democracy . The Epighones, his successors, are for sure despotic as their Persian kings before them. But we cannot say that they didn't expand the Greek spirit as it is written in the Greek philosophy and litterature. Did Alexandros conquests contribute to it? It is sure. Even the expansion of Christianity could not be possible, if there had not been the "Lingua Franca" of these historical period that is Greek. And without it, what would be the world today? Or, imagine what could happen, if Alexandros could live 20 more years, to fight the Carthageneans or the newly born Rome, as it is sayed in a scene of the movie? Who knows. It is sure that the main Alexandros' purpose was to destroy the Persian Empire and take revenge of their invasion to Greece. But after that he had the vision to unite people, to mix the races, to make another world. This vision has been realized partly, as Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Syrians for a long time after him made one world, the art, the religion, the civilization came together. For instance, after Alexandros' invasion, the Indians for the first time made pictures and statues of Buddha. The famous Indo-Hellenistic art. Yes, a new world was born. His dream lasted for long time in some countries. Of course, he is a conqueror, of course, he has made many crimes. It is obvious. But comparing with other conquerors too, i.e Genghis Han, or Tamerlan, can we say the same?

manos · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 68 Location: london

Who says that noone is interested in Persian History? People who like history want to get informations about different nations in different periods. At least in Greece, we know how brilliant was the Persian civilisation and how the Persians offer to the world, but most of the Greeks study history and are good at this, because we have quite a lot of neighbors who want to change it.... Wink

Iranian_88 · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

Lala · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject:

Dear Iranian-88, do you think that the entire world knows of all things that happened in Greek history? No! Most are ignorant of other major historical facts that shaped Greece and the Greek nation of today. The same goes for all other countries and nations. People tend to remember or be interested in the most important parts of a nations history. Only the ones that commit their lives to some sciences that demand more knowledge do know more. And sometimes art becomes a major contributor in order for people to notice cultures, histories, and civilizations. Good art can be a major media reference! Be it poems, novels, frescos, architecture, sculpture, costumes, mosaics, photography or even cinema.

Iranian_88 · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject:

I know what you're talking about... But I'm looking at it from a different angle I don't think you would understand...

I know a person that majored in history and when I brought up Cyrus, he didn't know him!

In some parts of the world the Persia empire doesn't play much of a role in history the way it should..

Maybe you guys know alot cuz you've lead a very strong and powerful empire yourself ...