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PersianElite
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: hi hi!! :D |
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Hey there my name is Farhoed...am 16 years old...am a guy..
I live in the Netherlands but am born in Iran.. we fleed to the Netherlands because of the muslem regime and I'm a descendant of the Persians!!! WOOHOO  |
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Alexandros_19

Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1230 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Farhoed!
I hope you enjoy having joined the forum and I also hope you enjoy the discussions we hold in it. I've read some of the posts you've already made and I've seen your perspective about things. I think most of us here agree with your take on equality. It was part of the Greek culture to believe in equality, but in a very limited conception of equality (limited to Greek male citizens in most cases; certainly different from the view of universal equality we tend to hold nowadays), and that's why they made so many differences, like that between Greek and barbarians. However, I believe, and I also think that in this point most of those who are in the forum will agree, Alexander was beyond this kind of discrimination. You may find some acts to the contrary, but his evident intention was to integrate all races under a single political entity and, in that way, Alexander was a multiculturalist respectful of diversity and desirous of cosmopolitism. |
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PersianElite
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I do understand what you mean and I fully respect it... thanks for your welcome.. and I do understand his goals...which he didn't quite achieve but.... he called them 'barbarians' ...uuhm well...they were the first with Human Rights.. and the evidence of that lies in London..that's why I dont understand that there are BARBARIANS... ...with human rights...but ok... Im spamming here cuz this is not a discussion thread...ONCE again thanks for you welcome alexandros
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kharyzz
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome. I'm a newbie too and I must say THIS BOARD IS HOT !
It seems you a nice guy.. have fun! |
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PersianElite
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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hehe thank you ! |
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joanna

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 1270 Location: Greece/USA/Italy/UK/
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Hi, PersianElite. Wow , what a beautiful name you chose!
First of all WELCOME to the friendliest forum. Enjoy yourself as everybody does.
The word 'barbarian', in the time of Alexander, didn't have the same meaning it has now. It meant simply a nation who didn't speak the Greek language and didn't follow the Greek customs. That's all.
In the movie you can see how Alexander respected the Persians and in one scene when he gets angry with his companions says that Persian civilization is older than the Greek one. |
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Adriv

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1144 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Persian decedant, I hope you enjoy your stay here.
Lets drink some wine like they used to do ..... "To Alexander the Great" and everybody else!  |
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PersianElite
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 13
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
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eheh didnt check out this thread for some time...thanks man yes I know joanna but the people of now...dont understand alexander...they thought barbarian is probably some weird dude with weird clothes that eats raw cows but ok...at least you understand me
once again, thanks for the warm welcome ! |
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joanna

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 1270 Location: Greece/USA/Italy/UK/
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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My pleasure  |
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Vrettas
Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:59 am Post subject: |
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A barbarian was used as a derogative term also in ancient Greece. I was reading the Illiad last night and they used the term barbarian as an insult in it. Alexander simply used the word barbarian to describe non Greeks. |
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Adriv

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1144 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Vrettas wrote: | A barbarian was used as a derogative term also in ancient Greece. I was reading the Illiad last night and they used the term barbarian as an insult in it. Alexander simply used the word barbarian to describe non Greeks. |
Yup! exactly, I couldn“t say it better. |
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