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Who was Alexander's rightful successor??

 
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Pleb



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Who was Alexander's rightful successor?? Reply with quote

When Alexander lay dying and his companions pressed him for a successor...his answer was 'to the strongest'. Does anyone think he had a person in mind? or was his statement one of a man who having achieved so much, did not want one man to succeed him and maybe outshine?
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Katalin



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to some writers he said Krateros , but those who were near him heard or wanted to hear "kratistos"which in greek means the strongest.
According to others (Hammond) he beleived deeply that gods will help him and cure him again and that he will survive one more time.
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Jenna Corinth



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't he choose Perdiccas to be his heir?
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sikader



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Who was Alexander's rightful successor?? Reply with quote

What makes you think that Alexander could not realize that his successors would ignore his advice and start fighting each other for power as soon as they could?

Should I remind to you that they begun to ignore Alexander shortly BEFORE his death, something that Stone's film does reveal when we see Ptolemy admitting that the successors killed all of Alexanders' "Dreams", and by killing his plans, the practically sent Alexander to death.
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Nikas



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, the big 'what if' question of history. What if Alexander had not died so young? What if he had chosen to sire a heir prior to leaving on his Persian campaign? Or what if he had firmly nominated a successor?

Or did he?

He is said to have said 'hoti to Kratistos' which can be translated as either 'to the strongest' or 'to the best'. Mary Renault claims that the dying man may have said 'hoti to Krateros' and been misheard, unintentionally or not.

He is also said to have given his seal (his ring) to Perdikkas just before passing away.

In another source he is said to have forseen a 'great funeral contest' over his body, prophetic words indeed.

No one will ever know, yet it is odd that a man as smart and forceful as Alexander would destroy the Argead dynasty is such a careless fashion. It is also suspect that his most likely sentimental choice, Hephaistion, pre-deceased him.

hmm.....
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Leonnatus



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Perdiccas Reply with quote

Alexander passed his signet ring to Perdiccas, his Vizier,indicating that he was to be his successor. After his death, Perdiccas chose to promote Roxane and Alexander's son as the just line of succession. After having put down a revolt he allied with Roxane on the basis of retaining Alexander's unified empire.He later led troops into Cappadocia which Alexander had bypassed in his march and won decisive victories there.While he was there Alexander's corpse was stolen by Ptolemy and taken to Egypt. Perdiccas led an army in pursuit of Ptolemy in 321BC but was assassinated by his officers most of whom clearly did not want another Alexander which in my view Perdiccas could have become.
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halfaery



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It´s been so many weeks since I saw the movie, but wasn´t it so that, the ring wasn´t given to Perdiccas in it, and Alexander was holding it himself in his death bed? And if I saw correctly it almost looked like that Bagoas was either helping Alex to take the ring off his finger or trying to take it for himself!! Very Happy Eunuch rules!! Very Happy

Those famous words then: 'to the strongest'
Could he have ment one of his sons to be born? Roxane´s or Stateira´s? In the case they had been boys, of course... What if Alex forsaw a battle between his own children?
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