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Kevin · Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:06 am Post subject:

This is turning into a race debate. Get back on topic or it will be locked.

Iranian_88 · Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:32 am Post subject:

emperor · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Location: New Zealand

Well read this quote from Kevin:

"Alexander has been dead a long time so in Hollywood they ain't gonna find him. It's all about money and movies, which is why you are at this board, so regardless of who would play him in your mind they are going to go with an actor who will pull the crowds. After all - it's a movie - not the real deal - you're going to have to build a time machine if you want the real thing."

Iranian_88 · Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject:

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Alexander has been dead a long time so in Hollywood they ain't gonna find him.

HAHA, true... I'd give anything to know what Alex thinks about all this ... Wink

pinelopi · Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 57

Alexander went to Persia to plunder. No intention to civilize other nations, the Persians and the Indians? lol!
History is always written by the winner and Alexander was a winner. He tried to idealize himselfe by controlling all the statues and paintings of him and all the history written by his historians. Later the Romans found a very strong ideological weapon in Alexanders live to excuse their brutal imperialism. After all those came the imperors and kings of Europe who cultivated and used Alexanders image to stay in power. Don't wait of many historians to say about Alexander anything else than that he was a great strategian, human, civilizator, genius and so on. All the killings, the plunder, the destruction, the genocide, they are all because of his "temper" or they did not happen at all.
European civilization is the main on this planet, the so called "western" civilization has his roots in Greek history. No way to see things in different way!

manos · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 68 Location: london

Of course all the conquerors are imperialists and don't conquer to civilise other countries, Alexander, Julius, Gengis Khan, Omar Kalif, Hitler etc. But we respect them coz they have the balls and not because they are good people.My opinion.

Lala · Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject:

Let's just hope that there will be no more people like them anyway.

longbow · Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Durham England

movies generally tell the stories in black and white ,in reallity theres a lot of grey areas.Of course they gloss over alexanders atrocities,why would they portray the hero as a villan.doesnt make sence in film terms. im british and the king arthur remake made my blood boil,arthur a roman(load of rubbish) and celts wearing rags covered in muck.historically its not accurate,celts invented chainmail armour so why aernt they wearing it.

emperor · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Location: New Zealand

Who_burns_who_fires · Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 1

just read below words from Cyrus the Great to know who were and are
Iranians, and shame on the person who wants to show this great peoples, small actually it will show his envy to the Splonder of Persia

Burn on your Fire

Bless to Cyrus, that showed the truth

...Now that I put the crown of kingdom of Iran, Babylon, and the nations of the four directions on the head with the help of (Ahura) Mazda, I announce that I will respect the traditions, customs and religions of the nations of my empire and never let any of my governors and subordinates look down on or insult them until I am alive. From now on, till (Ahura) Mazda grants me the kingdom favor, I will impose my monarchy on no nation. Each is free to accept it , and if any one of them rejects it , I never resolve on war to reign. Until I am the king of Iran, Babylon, and the nations of the four directions, I never let anyone oppress any others, and if it occurs , I will take his or her right back and penalize the oppressor.

And until I am the monarch, I will never let anyone take possession of movable and landed properties of the others by force or without compensation. Until I am alive, I prevent unpaid, forced labor. To day, I announce that everyone is free to choose a religion. People are free to live in all regions and take up a job provided that they never violate other's rights.

No one could be penalized for his or her relatives' faults. I prevent slavery and my governors and subordinates are obliged to prohibit exchanging men and women as slaves within their own ruling domains. Such a traditions should be exterminated the world over.

I implore to (Ahura) Mazda to make me succeed in fulfilling my obligations to the nations of Iran, Babylon, and the ones of the four directions.

Cyrus The Great 550 BC, Cyrus the Great Cylinders[/b]

or when he says

My numerous troops moved about undisturbed in the midst of Babylon. I did not allow anyone to terrorise the land of Sumer and Akkad. I kept in view the needs of Babylon and all its sanctuaries to promote their well being. The citizens of Babylon ... I lifted their unbecoming yoke. Their dilapidated dwellings I restored. I put an end to their misfortunes
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Iranian_88 · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:52 am Post subject:

Thnx for Cyrus's quotes... I love him...

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Let's just hope that there will be no more people like them anyway.

Do you think there are no people like them? Confused