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mOoK



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adriv wrote:
You see his butt and something else .... weeee... Shocked


LMAO Laughing yo i like dat Razz n ur absolutely rite!!! Wink
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Catherine X



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, you can see 'it' but it's shadowy between his legs - hhhmmm, not that I was looking!

I hope more of this scene shows up on the DVD


Wahay! Razz

did I read somewhere that you had bought the DVD or something, cindoo? Or was I dreaming?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catherine, you must have just been psychically reading my dreams. No, I don't have the DVD; wish I did.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i jus watched the clip from adriv a few times (understatement? Laughing ) and i reckon thats a body double Crying or Very sad i could understand them showing it from the back but they dont show the head and he looks slimmer than colin.... jus the way the cameras jump make it seem like a double.....

and im suuuuuuuure that they kiss (yeh yeh old discussion i kno but i never got chance to see it properly before!) the must do, it jus all happens so fast!
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Adriv



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is kissing who galatasaray? what kiss are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry i was ahead of myself there! jared and colin, al and heph.... after 'the ring'....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do kiss????? Very Happy

I sure hope so, is like... die and go to heaven.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh if you look realllllllllllly closely, very shortly after they hug their faces come reallllllllly close.....its gota be a kiss!! watch it now youl see!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried looking at the clip and stopping it at that moment. I want to think there is a kiss not a wishful hope. *sigh*
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

galatasaray wrote:
yeh if you look realllllllllllly closely, very shortly after they hug their faces come reallllllllly close.....its gota be a kiss!! watch it now youl see!


I saw it EXACTLY the same way last time I watched it. Their faces do come very very close and then in a split second they are about 2 feet apart and there's Roxane being angry.

I know, I know, we've gone over this many times before but I do like to talk about it, I guess because I like to think about them kissing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also saw that... but I think that's what our eyes want to see... Oliver has played with our imagination Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefestion19 - I would definitely be willing to believe that if it wasn't for the fact that just after that Roxane flips out about the two of them being together. Why would she react so strangely if all she saw was the two of them just talking causing Alexander to have to explain about there being many types of love?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my definitive opinion about this mysterious kiss:

I think that they DID kiss, but Oliver Stone was forced/ persuaded to cut it due to Warner Brothers [or whoever] getting cold feet [I mean getting worried about the public's reaction]. I also think cos Jared is American and his career is not established yet, his agent [or whoever] also got worried about his 'image.' I don't think Jared cares particularly. If Hephaestion had been played by an unknown Irishman it would not have been a problem. I read on this site somewhere that originally Alexander and Bagoas were shown romping around in bed, so surely there MUST have been a kiss between Al and Heph as that is much 'less offensive' than a bed scene between Al and Bagoas [I can't call him Bag, can I.]

I'm not trying to be anti American here, but obviously it is an American film and Warner Bros. must know how controversial Al's bisexuality [or whatever], was viewed by the American public.

I think it would have been better if it had been released in Europe first.

Hope I haven't offended anyone, please tell me if I have used the wrong word or phrase anywhere. Question

Phew! That was a long speech!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think is a issue of image, Jared himself said it on an interview that he will do a gay character any day of the week. I really think is that.
In other hand, when they interviewed both Colin and Jared, they both denied the kissing part.
I think is what Hefestion19 said.... Oliver is playing with our imagination. I also think that Roxana's reaction by getting mad is because she saw them very close to each other and because she saw Heph crying or in other words runny mascara- he was teary eye at that moment.

We want to think it is a kiss, I even myself want to think there was a kiss between those two.

But I hope I'm wrong Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think is a issue of image, Jared himself said it on an interview that he will do a gay character any day of the week. I really think is that.


Yes, that's what I said. Jared doesn't care, its just all the people round him- agents and things- who I expect are making a big fuss about it. I don't know. Maybe OS is playing games with us or maybe there is some conspiracy about it.

It just seems odd that if they originally filmed Alexander and Bagoas having sex in bed, why not film an innocent kiss between Al and Heph? Confused
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