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Pipsqueak



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for info Birdiemom94 - really hope April 5th is right - that's less than a month, away - YIPPEEEEE! Very Happy
Thank God I got a multi-region player - my theory is that there's probably so many different dates because of the rather unprecedented gap between its American release and Europes - and as such, I bet Europe will be waiting the longest for its region.......
God Bless America for having it last November - I canny wait!!!!!
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Pipsqueak



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay - so in my usual sad way I've been surfing the electronic waves of the internet and have so learned the following (pasted from DVD Times)

Canadian retailer DVDBoxoffice are the first to begin taking pre-orders (with believable dates) for several major releases coming this summer, with Oliver Stone's Alexander arriving on 17th May, Scorsese's The Aviator a week later on 24th May, and Clint Eastwood's Million Dollar Baby on 7th June. All are Warner Home Video releases expected to be available in separate Widescreen and Full Screen editions.

Tha above relates to R1, however the following is for the UK

Warner Home Video have tentatively pencilled in the UK DVD release of Oliver Stone's Alexander biopic starring Colin Farrell for 13th June 2005.

Okay - so good be a load of rubbish but source is pretty reliable and it sounds official - and does corraborate what the Man himself told is in response to Lardy's letter

Just though you wonderful lot would like to know.......
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lardvaark



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, nice bit of detective work there Pip me old son!

I was starting to wonder if the June release date was for the much-maligned "edited" version (shudder) as this would take more time to re-work, with the full theatrical coming out earlier?

I'm hoping the mighty Amazon will have something to say on it soon, although anywhere reliable I can get a R1 from is good enough for me! I just have to wait for a cash injection now Smile
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Pipsqueak



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]I'm hoping the mighty Amazon will have something to say on it soon, although anywhere reliable I can get a R1 from is good enough for me! I just have to wait for a cash injection now [/quote]

I heard that, Lardvaark - although I'd happily go into debt for Al and Mr Stone, anyday.
Do you reckon you'll by the "altered version" - I mean, from a curiosity point of view, I'm at least considering it - but I don't know whether it would change my view of the original version - Ohh, I now - maybe I'll buy it for my brother (who hated it at the cinema - poor sad **** that he is) you know, for his Birthday or something, and watch it that way - then I wont feel like I'm betraying all of CF's and JL's hard work in the original one............then again, is it possible to betray a movie? Who knows? I'll just keep taking the meds! Very Happy
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lardvaark



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a feeling I might buy the shortened version if it does emerge the earlier release, 'cos I have a nasty suspicion not many other people will...I'll probably just see what I do on impulse when the time comes.

Re-reading OS's letter (which I have with me again now, and I'll send photocopies to people btw, if they so wish! Sadly we have no access to a reliable scanner round here) I notice there is quite a strong hint that third. maybe fourth versions of the film may be possible in future. I see "Campaign #2" on the horizon Smile
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Catherine X



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lardvaark wrote:
I notice there is quite a strong hint that third. maybe fourth versions of the film may be possible in future. I see "Campaign #2" on the horizon Smile


Yay! I'm right behind you Captain, in the Campaign for the freedom of Alexander! Laughing Just imagine the Director's Cut of 4+ hours long.
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Pipsqueak



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW - versions 3 and 4, hey?
Wouldn't it be ironic if what has to be the most hated film in Hollywood actually has the most versions released on DVD - HA HA - in your face Hollywood - Twisted Evil and I'll buy all of 'em!
Anyway - all sounds good and let's hope the hint comes true - a 4hour version - what a dream................ Wink
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Alexiel



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pipsqueak wrote:
WOW - versions 3 and 4, hey?
Wouldn't it be ironic if what has to be the most hated film in Hollywood actually has the most versions released on DVD - HA HA - in your face Hollywood - Twisted Evil and I'll buy all of 'em!
Anyway - all sounds good and let's hope the hint comes true - a 4hour version - what a dream................ Wink


god,that would be Alexandergasmic!!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
I'm so silly,sorry
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Pipsqueak



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Alexial - Alexandergasmic, hey! I like the word - and yes, it would be - multiple alexandergasmics - COME ON!!!!!! Very Happy Wink
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Catherine X



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, i've just read that they are making another DVD version of Bladerunner- 20 odd years after it was released! So there is hope for Alexander yet Very Happy
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allison



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AAhhh - a four+ hour version - with all the deleted scenes back in, commentary by the core cast members as well as by OS himself (I favour several commentaries so that we can hear more), PLUS making of specials AND a doco or two about Al - That wouldn't be too much to ask for, would it Wink
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birdiemom94



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, no date yet, but it looks like Stone has finished the edits on the DVD.

Susa, posted this article at the Dreamworks forum (I have started a separate thread about Stone's Q & A at UC-Berkeley):

By JENNIFER JAMALL
Contributing Writer
Tuesday, March 15, 2005

Controversial movie director Oliver Stone visited Wheeler Auditorium Monday evening to discuss the challenges he encountered while making his latest film, “Alexander.”
The latest guest in The College Presents lecture series, Stone expressed to UC Berkeley Dean of Arts and Humanities Ralph Hexter the complexities of bringing ancient history to a modern audience through film.

Stone’s epic, released last year, centers on the life of the Macedonian conqueror Alexander the Great and shed light on the personal struggles of the famed soldier.

Although his most successful films, such as “Platoon” and “Born on the Fourth of July,” focus on the Vietnam War, Stone claimed the idea to make a movie about Alexander had always been with him.

“Alexander’s story is perhaps the most unique individual history I’ve come across,” Stone said. “My question was, why hadn’t it been done more?”

In front of a captivated audience, Stone and Hexter volleyed about the film’s triumphs and shortcomings in depicting the Greek leader.

Stone elaborated on the tremendous difficulty of squeezing Alexander’s life into two and a half hours to better fit the attention span of the modern American audience.

“It was difficult for me to change Alexander as they did in Troy,” Stone said. “Homer we can guess at, but Alexander’s story is real.”

Prompted by Hexter’s question regarding his portrayal of Alexander’s sexual orientation, which is still hotly debated among scholars, Stone admitted that he put too much emphasis on Alexander’s alleged homosexual relationships.

“They were calling it ‘Alex the Gay,’” Stone said. “I got carried away with the homosexual element but it was because I wanted to emphasize his masculine/feminine dynamic.”

Stone attributed the American media’s harsh criticism of the film and its poor box-office performance to American attitudes about homosexuality.

“It recouped $130 million in non-English speaking countries,” Stone said. “I had no idea that the homophobia in this country had reached these levels.”

Stone claimed he also encountered fierce claims of entitlement of Alexander’s history from Greece, when a group of Greek lawyers sued the director and tried to ban the film from theaters until the homosexual scenes were removed.

Stone also noted the difficulties in making 21st-century audiences understand the extreme violence of ancient cultures.

“This was not a world of the United Nations and 200 countries, it didn’t exist,” Stone said. “Alexander was the first globalist, he created the first mobile, biracial empire.”

Having just completed his latest edit for the DVD version of the film, Stone emphasized that despite the movie’s setbacks, “Alexander” remains the most important project of his life. “No matter what the present result, I would make ‘Alexander’ again,” Stone said. “I might do it different but I’d still do it.”

Thanks to Susa...you are a doll!

Dara Smile
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Ely



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my god a 4 hour version of Alexander, now that would be an almost impossible dream, And surely I will DEFINITELY buy ANY and ALL versions which become available!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you birdiemom for posting this information. I haven't had a chance to see the video but plan on it soon. Anyway, it makes me sad to hear that Stone feels regret at having portrayed so much homosexuality. Actually, I have to Confused wonder about that. I mean, really now, they didn't even kiss. Gosh, the way it sounds you'd think we were talking about a gay porn flick! Anyway, I know it's all been said before but I do feel sad that Stone has regrets about his film because I think it was wonderful. I'm still worried about what we'll find (or NOT find) on the DVD. Thank goodness I have all the gay porn (i.e. hugging and stolen glances) from my clips I got from Adriv so I'll be somewhat OK if they are missing from the DVD. NO NO NO, I take that back. I won't be OK. I want the whole thing, just the way it was in the theater to appear on my big scrren at home. Hmm, I suppose I could run the clips from my computer onto the TV screen - wow, just thought about that - what a GREAT idea - I AM A GENIUS!!!! Laughing Laughing
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Pipsqueak



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cindoo15 - couldn't agree more - a kiss between Al and Bagoas - and hug between two men who have a bond I'd consider myself lucky to share - does not constitute Homosexual content - I mean for crying out loud, come on - what's wrong with everyone!!!!! Why can't we accept that men can express a need for one another - believe me, if so called evolution has put an end to men being able to do that and not be laughed at - then how far have we really come? I think I'd prefer to de-evolve to a time when relationship's meant more than sex..........
Shouldn't we be better than that, by now

(sorry to get heavy - I'm feeling particularly aggressive this morning and it just pisses me off that people make such a broohaha about these sort of things - I know everyone's entitled to their opinion but if they can get an Alexander without the human element involved - then we should be able to get an Alexander with!!!!!)
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